Monday, July 18, 2016

Tallies II.

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As extracted from an Internet web site forum that PERSPECTIVE OF THE ENGLISH REGARDING THE TANK ACE:

"All scores are very subjective. The claims by British tank crews are no less credible than those by the Germans and Americans both of whom are much more likely to award decorations by statistical claims. Abandoned tanks, shared victories and the differences between the phrases 'k.o'd' [knocked-out] and 'brewed up' [on-fire] also come into the mix when talking of the successes of one crew or another. German tanks aces made multiple claims in the target rich environment at Kursk so the El Alamein battles surely presented the same opportunities. Many of Nicholls' kills were against the lighter armoured vehicles of the Italian Army but he also was successful against the Panzers of the Africa Korps and German army in Italy. I doubt there will ever be a definitive list of British tank aces, as has been stated the method of keeping score was very unofficial, but individuals do stand out and deserve mention alongside the more well publicised tankies of other nations"

"The biggest problem is that they [English] rarely kept scores but going of memoirs, regimental histories and Diaries it is quite feasible that there were many Desert veterans who clocked up very large scores of Tanks by VE day . . . Unlike the Germans the keeping of scores was thought un-British [not sporting or chivalrous?] and counterproductive to morale and unit cohesiveness. The British pushed the team aspect . . . Tanks don't have an operational logbook like a pilot does so there were little in the way of records to base it on other than War Diaries and Int [intelligence] Summaries"

ALFIE NICHOLLS "KILLS" WERE AGAINST INFERIOR ITALIAN ARMOR? TALLIES IF INDEED COUNTED SEEN AS NOT ANYTHING TO BRAG ABOUT?

The English too stressing the TEAM ASPECT of tank warfare. A tank crew that crew  commander/gunner/driver/loader ALL  HAVING TO WORK IN CONCERT!

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